Comments on: OPML list for Planet Journals http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/ John Breslin's Blog Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:23:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: James Corbett http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-144195 James Corbett Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:48:20 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-144195 <p>I don’t know why it’s not working in that viewer John but it’s working fine in Grazr as it was right after the update yesterday. I know that we used to have a caching issue with Grazr in the early days but the team did some tweaks on the backend and now updates are reflected almost immediately on publication.</p> I don’t know why it’s not working in that viewer John but it’s working fine in Grazr as it was right after the update yesterday. I know that we used to have a caching issue with Grazr in the early days but the team did some tweaks on the backend and now updates are reflected almost immediately on publication.

]]> By: Keith Gaughan http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143886 Keith Gaughan Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:37:34 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143886 <p>Looks good to me! There’s only one other wee change I’d make, and that’s to use UTC as the timezone rather than GMT. It’s more an aethetic thing than anything else.</p> <p>Is is just me that finds the fact that the vast majority of the feeds from the twenty most recently added blogs are Atom feeds and yet the node type is “rss” rather amusing? Some day that’s going to be the same kind of technological anachronism as CAR and CDR in Lisp…</p> Looks good to me! There’s only one other wee change I’d make, and that’s to use UTC as the timezone rather than GMT. It’s more an aethetic thing than anything else.

Is is just me that finds the fact that the vast majority of the feeds from the twenty most recently added blogs are Atom feeds and yet the node type is “rss” rather amusing? Some day that’s going to be the same kind of technological anachronism as CAR and CDR in Lisp…

]]> By: Cloud http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143870 Cloud Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:23:53 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143870 <p>Can’t seem to view the Blogging node, maybe it’s because it’s been just added?</p> <p><span class='-linked-Data' title='http://eurekaman.com/oid/?opmlfile=http://www.opmlworkstation.com/create/public/jcorbett/opml/Blogging/Blogging.opml' postaddress='http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/index.php?sioc_type=comment%26sioc_id=143870'><a href='http://eurekaman.com/oid/?opmlfile=http://www.opmlworkstation.com/create/public/jcorbett/opml/Blogging/Blogging.opml'>http://eurekaman.com/oid/?opmlfile=http://www.opmlworkstation.com/create/public/jcorbett/opml/Blogging/Blogging.opml</a></span></p> Can’t seem to view the Blogging node, maybe it’s because it’s been just added?

http://eurekaman.com/oid/?opmlfile=http://www.opmlworkstation.com/create/public/jcorbett/opml/Blogging/Blogging.opml

]]> By: James Corbett http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143854 James Corbett Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:16:50 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143854 <p>Oops, sorry for any confusion John -the validator is just a guide, but Grazr is what’s important to me! <img src='http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br /> Anyway, it’s working fine now and both nodes have been entered under the “News & Media -> Blogging” category in the Open Irish Directory. Thanks for supplying the OPML!</p> Oops, sorry for any confusion John -the validator is just a guide, but Grazr is what’s important to me! ;-)
Anyway, it’s working fine now and both nodes have been entered under the “News & Media -> Blogging” category in the Open Irish Directory. Thanks for supplying the OPML!

]]> By: Cloud http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143848 Cloud Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:08:08 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143848 <p>The validator doesn’t seem to work, I tried one of your feeds James and it was giving some database error… “Sorry! There was an error: Internal database error: attempted to read a free block. Try to Save a Copy and relaunch with the new database.”</p> <p>But anyway, I’ll make the changes Keith recommended now…</p> <p>Edit: Changes made, how we looking now?</p> The validator doesn’t seem to work, I tried one of your feeds James and it was giving some database error… “Sorry! There was an error: Internal database error: attempted to read a free block. Try to Save a Copy and relaunch with the new database.”

But anyway, I’ll make the changes Keith recommended now…

Edit: Changes made, how we looking now?

]]> By: James Corbett http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143555 James Corbett Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:49:51 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143555 <p>John, unfortuantely neither feed is now validating in either Grazr or the OPML Validator - <span class='-linked-Data' title='http://validator.opml.org' postaddress='http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/index.php?sioc_type=comment%26sioc_id=143555'><a href='http://validator.opml.org'>http://validator.opml.org</a></span></p> <p>I’m afraid I’m not an OPML expert, at least from the development point of view, I’m just a very enthusiastic users, so I can’t help with the technicalities like Keith can. Sorry <img src='http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p> John, unfortuantely neither feed is now validating in either Grazr or the OPML Validator - http://validator.opml.org

I’m afraid I’m not an OPML expert, at least from the development point of view, I’m just a very enthusiastic users, so I can’t help with the technicalities like Keith can. Sorry :(

]]> By: Justin Mason http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143261 Justin Mason Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:34:48 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143261 <p>Awesome — I’ll be using that for the Irish Blogs/Technorati Top 100 in future <img src='http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> Awesome — I’ll be using that for the Irish Blogs/Technorati Top 100 in future ;)

]]> By: Keith Gaughan http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143167 Keith Gaughan Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:55:14 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143167 <p>Aw, crap! It stripped the list formatting! You get the idea though.</p> Aw, crap! It stripped the list formatting! You get the idea though.

]]> By: Keith Gaughan http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143166 Keith Gaughan Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:53:16 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-143166 <p>As always, John, I’m here to make your life difficult :). I spotted a few issues with it:</p> <p>The character encoding given in the generated file is incorrect. It should be <em>UTF-8</em> rather than <em>ISO-8859-1</em>. This is given correctly in the HTML headers.<br /> The <em>Content-Type</em> header gives the content type as <em>text/html</em> rather than either <em>text/x-opml</em> or <em>application/xml</em>. The former, according to the spec, is preferred. A bit picky, I know, but still…<br /> A more critical issue is the contents of the text attribute. It’s supposed to be double-entity-encoded HTML, but their contents is only single-encoded. [Aside: the spec says it <em>may</em> be double-entity-encoded HTML, but given that it's not algorithmically possible to tell whether the contents is plain text or HTML, I'd err on the side of caution and double-encode them. Silent data loss is not your friend.] The node for Ray Foley’s blog is one such example.<br /> You don’t need the <em>expansionState</em>, <em>vertScrollState</em>, <em>windowTop</em>, <em>windowLeft</em>, <em>windowBottom</em> and <em>windowRight</em> elements in the header, so I’d just drop them. In any event, the value of those last four is meant to be an integer greater than 0, and <em>windowTop</em> and <em>windowLeft</em> are not.<br /> The dates given given are missing the timezone, which they need to have, otherwise they’re ambiguous and don’t adhere to the RFC-822 date format the spec specifies.</p> <p>Other than that, excellent!</p> As always, John, I’m here to make your life difficult :). I spotted a few issues with it:

The character encoding given in the generated file is incorrect. It should be UTF-8 rather than ISO-8859-1. This is given correctly in the HTML headers.
The Content-Type header gives the content type as text/html rather than either text/x-opml or application/xml. The former, according to the spec, is preferred. A bit picky, I know, but still…
A more critical issue is the contents of the text attribute. It’s supposed to be double-entity-encoded HTML, but their contents is only single-encoded. [Aside: the spec says it may be double-entity-encoded HTML, but given that it's not algorithmically possible to tell whether the contents is plain text or HTML, I'd err on the side of caution and double-encode them. Silent data loss is not your friend.] The node for Ray Foley’s blog is one such example.
You don’t need the expansionState, vertScrollState, windowTop, windowLeft, windowBottom and windowRight elements in the header, so I’d just drop them. In any event, the value of those last four is meant to be an integer greater than 0, and windowTop and windowLeft are not.
The dates given given are missing the timezone, which they need to have, otherwise they’re ambiguous and don’t adhere to the RFC-822 date format the spec specifies.

Other than that, excellent!

]]> By: Cloud http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-142939 Cloud Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:59:51 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/11/03/opml-list-for-planet-journals/#comment-142939 <p>Aha - sorry about that - fixed (I’d left out an equals sign - doh!).</p> Aha - sorry about that - fixed (I’d left out an equals sign - doh!).

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