Comments on: Creating connections between discussion clouds with SIOC http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/09/07/creating-connections-between-discussion-clouds-with-sioc/ John Breslin's Blog Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:06:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Semantic SEO Blog » Blog Archive » an overlay of scalable vector graphics - everything rippling and folding and looking misty http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/09/07/creating-connections-between-discussion-clouds-with-sioc/#comment-134591 Semantic SEO Blog » Blog Archive » an overlay of scalable vector graphics - everything rippling and folding and looking misty Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:55:32 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/09/07/creating-connections-between-discussion-clouds-with-sioc/#comment-134591 <p>[...] Wonder what you could do in SVG with all the SIOC clouds… [...]</p> [...] Wonder what you could do in SVG with all the SIOC clouds… [...]

]]> By: Microformats and SIOC at Cloudlands http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/09/07/creating-connections-between-discussion-clouds-with-sioc/#comment-131514 Microformats and SIOC at Cloudlands Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:23 +0000 http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006/09/07/creating-connections-between-discussion-clouds-with-sioc/#comment-131514 <p>[...] It’s been a year since I last took a look at the overlap between the SIOC Project and Microformats (mf).  I’ve been trying to catch up with recent developments, especially the cite-rel draft by Ryan King and Eran Globen. I admire the Microformats resolve to “solve problems”, rather than provide generic things that may in the future be used for X or Y (even though I also think that is important, or else I wouldn’t be a Semantic Web researcher!).  I also think that there is no good reason that both the Semantic Web and Microformats communities can’t work together (despite arguments like this).  There are people on both sides who strongly feel that the other is going in the wrong direction, but it would be a mistake to let any such voices dominate.  Both communities are trying to add semantics in the Web, and using things like GRDDL and Micromodels / mf RDF representations, the existing work from both sides can be reused. So, with this in mind and in terms of SIOC, I hope that we can use Microformats to help create closer interlinks between the objects that make up online communities - I’m talking mainly about posts, forums / blogs, communities and user profiles.  I’m going to start with three or four things I want SIOC to do for Microformats and vice versa, and then we can go from there.  These correspond to some of the links shown in my “connecting discussion clouds” picture. One User, Many User Accounts At the moment, it is quite difficult to identify all the posts made by a particular person through their various user personas or profiles on different sites - e.g. find all the blog posts and comments and forum threads I’ve created in the past year.  In the SIOC and FOAF vocabularies, there are two properties linking people to user profiles: a Person is linked to a User using a “hasOnlineAccount” link, and a User is linked to a Person using an “account_of” relationship.  Using a mf for sioc:account_of / foaf:hasOnlineAccount would help with the “One Person, Many User Accounts” issue - e.g. these links could be created from a user signature or other public profile field.  For example, I have an account on boards.ie, and I want to say that I am the same person described by a FOAF profile on my own site, or that I hold another account on boards.jp.  Maybe links are required in both directions to confirm that I am really am who I claim I am, but this can be done at least (even if it is tedious).  This may also require some BBCodes for forums that translate to the appropriate HTML. Example <div class=”User”> [...]</p> [...] It’s been a year since I last took a look at the overlap between the SIOC Project and Microformats (mf).  I’ve been trying to catch up with recent developments, especially the cite-rel draft by Ryan King and Eran Globen. I admire the Microformats resolve to “solve problems”, rather than provide generic things that may in the future be used for X or Y (even though I also think that is important, or else I wouldn’t be a Semantic Web researcher!).  I also think that there is no good reason that both the Semantic Web and Microformats communities can’t work together (despite arguments like this).  There are people on both sides who strongly feel that the other is going in the wrong direction, but it would be a mistake to let any such voices dominate.  Both communities are trying to add semantics in the Web, and using things like GRDDL and Micromodels / mf RDF representations, the existing work from both sides can be reused. So, with this in mind and in terms of SIOC, I hope that we can use Microformats to help create closer interlinks between the objects that make up online communities - I’m talking mainly about posts, forums / blogs, communities and user profiles.  I’m going to start with three or four things I want SIOC to do for Microformats and vice versa, and then we can go from there.  These correspond to some of the links shown in my “connecting discussion clouds” picture. One User, Many User Accounts At the moment, it is quite difficult to identify all the posts made by a particular person through their various user personas or profiles on different sites - e.g. find all the blog posts and comments and forum threads I’ve created in the past year.  In the SIOC and FOAF vocabularies, there are two properties linking people to user profiles: a Person is linked to a User using a “hasOnlineAccount” link, and a User is linked to a Person using an “account_of” relationship.  Using a mf for sioc:account_of / foaf:hasOnlineAccount would help with the “One Person, Many User Accounts” issue - e.g. these links could be created from a user signature or other public profile field.  For example, I have an account on boards.ie, and I want to say that I am the same person described by a FOAF profile on my own site, or that I hold another account on boards.jp.  Maybe links are required in both directions to confirm that I am really am who I claim I am, but this can be done at least (even if it is tedious).  This may also require some BBCodes for forums that translate to the appropriate HTML. Example <div class=”User”> [...]

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